024 - Cinema Con Curse

Unfortunately it’s a shorter episode this week thanks to some very questionable audio issues, leaving MJ & Nath sounding like they’re auditioning for the next reboot of Alvin & The Chipmunks.

Despite the high pitched chaos, the boys still squeeze in the big headlines from CinemaCon, break down the latest trailers of with Producer Kim, and crack open The Tomb for yet another update from The Mummy 4. And yes, much to MJ’s dismay but your pleasure, The Weird Files still makes an appearance.

Short, squeaky and slightly cursed, but still packed with pulp. MJ & Nath promise to return next week in their actual dulcet tones.

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SPEAKER_10 0:00

I got black jelly bane.

SPEAKER_05 0:01

Oh, why would you do that? They're the best. The end. Any other questions? And that's the end of the podcast. There goes our jelly bane podcast that we were gonna do.

SPEAKER_00 0:30

Let's get this podcast started. Here's your host, MJ and Nate.

SPEAKER_04 0:35

Hey, and welcome to the Pulp Culture Podcast, your weekly dose of all things pop culture freshly squeezed for you. I'm Nate. I'm MJ. And we are recording from Caesars Palace, Las Vegas, the Cinemacon.

SPEAKER_10 0:48

Whoa, hey, what? Wow. That's the news to me. It's not unwelcome.

SPEAKER_05 0:55

No one can see us, so that would have been a great lead-in.

SPEAKER_10 0:58

Yeah, they can't hear all the the excitement. Stop slot machines. Poggies and people's souls leaving their bodies and Timothy Chalamet doing opera. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:08

Well a ballet dance.

SPEAKER_10 1:09

Yeah, Brad Pitt and George Clooney scheming at the bar.

SPEAKER_04 1:14

Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_10 1:16

Um Julia Roberts rolling a rise.

SPEAKER_04 1:20

Well, I thought considering uh this as as we record this episode, it is CinemaCon, which is probably one of the biggest uh news sort of um outlets for when it comes to TV and film, film specifically. Yep. Um so thought it'd be great for our destination for this week to be in Las Vegas.

SPEAKER_10 1:41

Uh no, thanks to CinemaCon for putting us up. Absolutely. Paying for our tickets, yeah, yep. Smoothing things over with um the the TSA and all that sort of stuff.

SPEAKER_04 1:50

Yep, yeah. Managed to get in there just just by without a strip search. So good.

SPEAKER_10 1:55

Yeah, I just mustn't have looked at my socials.

SPEAKER_04 1:59

Uh Pop Felcher Podcast, come right in. Yes, come right in. Come right in. Why not? Well, maybe let's get into the zest. All right, we've got heaps of news, heaps, stacks of news. Heaps and heaps of news. Maybe let's start off with uh trailers, Mr. Trailers. Yes, what's going on?

SPEAKER_10 2:26

Well, uh I'm gonna call in a special guest to talk about trailers this time because there's a couple out that I uh know a little bit about, yeah, but not heaps.

SPEAKER_04 2:36

This is our uh our our trailers correspondent for when we're when when we're not really interested in those trailers.

SPEAKER_05 2:42

Yeah, that's well it's not or that we don't know much about those trailers.

SPEAKER_10 2:46

Yeah, I mean one of them at least had me very excited. It was a fantastic, dynamic looking trailer. But anyway, I'll cut to the chase. Um producer Kim is here, yes, um, and she's gonna talk with us about uh the uh firstly the Hunger Games trailer. Now, what what's the movie called?

SPEAKER_00 3:02

It is called The Hunger Games Sunrise on the Reaping. Yes. So yes, this is so this is the next this is moving on from the Hunger Games um series. So we had the three books back in the day that they then moved into four movies.

SPEAKER_10 3:17

How is this one related to the Rachel Zegler one?

SPEAKER_00 3:19

So this is after the Rachel Zegler one, but before the Jennifer Lawrence one.

SPEAKER_04 3:24

The Jennifer Lawrence one is uh I think the time gap is what 25 years is something like that.

SPEAKER_00 3:30

The Jennifer Lawrence ones were the first three books now.

SPEAKER_04 3:33

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:34

The Rachel Zegler one, uh, which is a ballad of songbirds, uh songbirds and snakes, is when President Snow was younger. So it's like him at high school and his early years of you know the Hunger Games. I think it was like the fifth or the tenth Hunger Games that was the one.

SPEAKER_10 3:49

To satisfy my curiosity, President Snow in the original ones was played by Donald Sutherland. And in this one, he's played by Rafe Bines.

SPEAKER_00 3:58

Correct, correct, because he's a younger version um of the Donald S uh Donald Sutherland character.

SPEAKER_10 4:05

And was he in the Rachel Zegler one?

SPEAKER_00 4:07

No, no, he wasn't. So in the Rachel Zegler one, the young blonde kid was President Snow as a kid.

SPEAKER_10 4:13

Oh so he was in that one.

SPEAKER_00 4:15

Correct, but not played by anyone because he was like a teenager.

SPEAKER_10 4:17

So the Holy Ghost anybody.

SPEAKER_00 4:19

Oh, I know, but no, he was played by Tom somebody rather. But yes, he was not played by any of the people that are in the world.

SPEAKER_04 4:23

So the movie for all of these films is President Snow, really, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 4:27

Basically, yeah. So we're sort of this is basically in between the books and the last movie that came out. Okay, gotcha. So this is centered around uh the quarter quail with Hamich Abernathy, who was played by Woody Harrelson in the movies. So he was Katniss's mentor.

unknown 4:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:43

So it is his Hunger Games.

SPEAKER_04 4:45

And the Quarterquail is like 50, is that like the 50th?

SPEAKER_00 4:48

25, 50, 75. It's a bigger Hunger Games.

SPEAKER_04 4:51

And so this is the 50th one, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 4:53

I believe yeah, I think so, yeah. Because like in the second Hunger Games, it was the 75th, and so they had different rules. So in this one, there's twice as many tributes.

SPEAKER_04 5:02

Well, that would make sense as 25, then, right?

SPEAKER_00 5:04

So yeah, as I said, anyway. But so it's Hamish Hamish's games that we get to hear about.

SPEAKER_10 5:10

Now, interestingly, we have heard about these So is that Young Young Boy in the trailer that is that meant to be Woody Harrelson?

SPEAKER_00 5:16

That is young Woody Harrelson.

SPEAKER_10 5:17

Wow, he went downhill, didn't he?

SPEAKER_05 5:20

Well, he was pretty he was a heavy drinker, if you remember.

SPEAKER_00 5:23

There's a little bit of trauma, which basically is what we're gonna find out about through this.

SPEAKER_10 5:27

No, I don't remember because I haven't seen any of the movies.

SPEAKER_04 5:29

Oh, they all die. Sorry, it's fine. They all die. It's like hunger games.

SPEAKER_00 5:35

For once, Nathan is pretty right on this one.

SPEAKER_04 5:37

Oh, come on.

SPEAKER_10 5:39

Spoilers. Spoiler alert.

SPEAKER_00 5:45

It had to happen at least once.

SPEAKER_10 5:46

I was just about to start reading one of the books.

SPEAKER_00 5:48

Oh please do. They're amazing, they're amazing. So yeah, when when this book was announced, I was actually like, uh, we've heard about this because they did actually cover it.

SPEAKER_10 5:56

But the trailer, the trailer looks good, though.

SPEAKER_00 5:58

The trailer looks amazing. Like I I was like, wow. So it's been 10-15 years since the last like big Hunger Games movie. Yeah, you can see that they've definitely ramped up the production, yeah, they've ramped up the scale of it. Like the the opening ceremony looks like Olympic Games opening ceremony, and they describe the the arena in this book as the most beautiful meadow in the world, and it does, it just looks stunning.

SPEAKER_04 6:22

Cinematography is really on point in this one, uh, and from the trailer, and also to the casting. Like whoever the casting director is is just amazing to get those likenesses is is is always a difficult one. You know, it's either hit or missed, but it's but this is a really good really, really good well done.

SPEAKER_10 6:42

It's not just the likenesses though, it's the talent as well. Like um how many Oscar nominees and winners are in that cast?

SPEAKER_00 6:49

A lot, yeah, a lot. So, yeah, you've got Raf Bynes, you've got Jesse Clemens, so he's playing the young um Plutarch who is the Philip Seymour Hoffman Glenn Close.

SPEAKER_04 6:58

Which he was really he was really worried about playing that that that character. And fair enough, too, he was a really love character from the movie, and and also you're playing a character um of a deceased person. So, you know, he was very worried about trying to do that justice without having somebody to be able to refer back to.

SPEAKER_00 7:17

And I think it's good in the way that they are playing younger versions of those characters um because they're not who they were when we saw them in the movie. This is when they were younger, still. Less jaded, correct, less, less traumatized, and that's that's where I think they've done really well, is that these are characters that we know in that we have seen them in the movies later, but this is you know where they got there, how they got their stuff, where they got their trauma and their drinking problems from. You know, we are gonna see a lot of that in this movie. So, yeah, I'm I'm really excited about the cast. I think it they all look great. As you said, all the younger versions. We've got a lot of popular young actresses. Maya Hawke is in it, we've got Lieutenant Grace, who's in it. There's another young kid who I think he's the karate kid in the latest reboot.

SPEAKER_02 7:59

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 7:59

I think he's in it.

SPEAKER_02 8:00

Right.

SPEAKER_00 8:00

Um, you've got Elle Fanning popping up doing the younger version of Elizabeth Banks character.

SPEAKER_10 8:04

Yeah, she was great. There's so many, there's there's so many um great actors in it that I keep forgetting. I keep forgetting people. Yeah. Um, yeah, no, it definitely um gave me FOMO. Like, I think I'm gonna need to catch up on the film so that I can go and see this one.

SPEAKER_00 8:18

Yeah, it is. I'm I'm excited. Like when I saw the trailer, I'm like, this is gonna be amazing.

SPEAKER_10 8:22

But it's an exciting trailer.

SPEAKER_04 8:23

Is it is it just me or does it feel like that this could be like Empire Strikes Back where it's not gonna end well?

SPEAKER_00 8:28

It's the Hunger Games, of course it's not gonna end well.

SPEAKER_04 8:31

But but the other ones sort of gave you, I mean, each of those Hunger Games they gave you hope, right? This one doesn't feel like it's it's sort of if it feels like the beginning of it, yeah, but by the end of the trailer, you're kind of like, I don't think this is gonna fare very well.

SPEAKER_00 8:44

No, you're exactly right, and I think they've framed it really well for people that don't know the Hunger Games well, in that this is the game that sort of started the rebellion.

SPEAKER_04 8:52

The launch point, right? Correct.

SPEAKER_00 8:54

And so, yes, it's probably not gonna end well for a lot of people, but at least this is the start of the rebellion that we then see come to fruition in the Hunger Games movies. So, yeah, that is an excellent analogy.

SPEAKER_10 9:05

Yeah, yeah. So, um, well, yeah, now very exciting. Um, I'm looking forward to catching up at least. Um, the other trailer that we got today was one that I didn't even know was coming.

SPEAKER_04 9:18

TV series.

SPEAKER_10 9:19

Yeah, TV series.

SPEAKER_00 9:20

Book-related TV series.

SPEAKER_10 9:21

Book-related TV series.

SPEAKER_00 9:22

It's probably about the diametrically opposite to the Hunger Games, as you can guess.

SPEAKER_10 9:26

Yeah, so Little House on the Prairie.

SPEAKER_05 9:28

Yes. But still at the same time, at that at that time of uh that that that time, it was definitely like the Hunger Games anyway, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_00 9:36

So in the Wild West. Well, yes, I'm gonna frame it as that as well. Yeah. This one popped up on my algorithm. I didn't know anything about this. Um, so this is a Netflix reboot of The Little House in the Furry.

SPEAKER_10 9:49

Yeah, what's your history with the story?

SPEAKER_00 9:51

Like did you used to watch the show or read the books or thankfully I was not around when the show first came out, Mark, but thank you for saying though. Um so there was a TV series.

SPEAKER_04 10:01

You thought you were?

SPEAKER_00 10:02

No, no, it started in 1974.

SPEAKER_04 10:04

Yeah, 74, but it went for It went for like nine seasons.

SPEAKER_00 10:07

I did not realise, like it was one book in a series of eight books, and so I think they definitely took a lot of poetic license.

SPEAKER_10 10:14

Okay. I re because I remember it being on when I was a kid, but it must have been very little.

SPEAKER_04 10:20

Well, nine nine seasons, 74, it would have gone to 83. It's it's quite possible that you might have seen them. I remember seeing them as a kid. Yeah. Um, I must have been relatively young at that stage. I mean, um, but and that's obviously showing my age. Uh but that was that that kind of was the career sort of jumper for people like Michael Landon, uh Melissa Gilbert, etc. etc. I I don't know, correct me if I'm wrong, but when I was watching this trailer today, in our time, I noticed that it's it appears to be different from the TV series. It it seems like the TV series they were very well established where they were heading towards. Uh whereas in the in this this is more like a um you know uh a journey, you know, that they're on to get to where they want to be. Is that right?

SPEAKER_00 11:12

Yeah, that's what it seems to be like. The the trailer literally starts with them, you know, once upon a time we left the house in big woods now. The first book in their series is Little House in Big Woods, which I remember reading in primary school. And it seems like this first season is going to focus on them getting to the prairie, and you were literally seeing, you know, them chopping down trees to make you know cabins and they're they're getting established. So um it seems like they are sort of going back to the source material in just focusing on that at the start of them getting to the prairie. It looks it looks pretty, it looks beautiful, like it it's it's hitting all of the things that you would want from a first trailer. It's like, you know, you've got the the frontier town and you've got them in a covered wagon, and you've got the planes, and you know, all the bonnet hats and exactly flowers and the hair and all that. So from that aspect, I'm like it stick still seems like it's sticking pretty close to it. I did read that it has been approved for a second season, so maybe that's going to move on, whether that's an update. Whether they get established or what they're gonna do, who knows?

SPEAKER_04 12:12

But uh but that that that seems to be a a a big trend at the moment um in in having sort of these Midwestern sort of adventures.

SPEAKER_02 12:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 12:20

Um, and you know, we I don't think that's going away anytime. So yeah, like Yellowstone sort of created that during the pandemic. Um, everybody sort of jumped onto that, and that's sort of taken off, and we've had a lot of different sort of spin-offs from Yellowstone. Um, and now uh this is I would say this studio's answer to to a Yellowstone adventure, right?

SPEAKER_10 12:43

So it's what shows about going out where there's no people.

SPEAKER_00 12:46

That's well shows when it was simpler times and it wasn't so complicated.

SPEAKER_04 12:50

Well, people looking for a better life, right? So they're leaving one area where they might not have a lot and they're trying to go on an adventure to get a better life, right? Searching for more, right? Searching for more. Fair enough.

SPEAKER_10 13:01

Yeah. Um this one's got an Australian actor in the lead.

SPEAKER_00 13:04

It does. I was watching the trail and I'm like, he looks really familiar. His name is um the guy's playing Par or Charles is Luke Bracie, which you and I would know from the second season of The Artful Dodger. I recognised him immediately. Inspector Henry Boxer, who's rather dashing young fellow, so I was very excited to see that for him. That's great.

SPEAKER_04 13:22

I'm sorry it was in Neighbours or or Home and Away before that.

SPEAKER_10 13:25

Yeah, yeah. I I I did when we when we when he popped up in Artful Dodger, I did look him up, and he's he's got a reasonable career on both sides of the um the giant pond. Yeah, yeah, right.

SPEAKER_00 13:37

Exactly. The other one you know.

SPEAKER_10 13:38

What do we call the Pacific Ocean? The giant pond. Okay, giant pond. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:43

Um the other one you may or may not have noticed, is the girl who plays Laura, who's the younger one. She's played by the same actress who was in lessons in chemistry. She played Brie Larson's daughter. So I'm like, good. She's she was a great little actress in that show, so I'm excited for that.

SPEAKER_10 13:57

I didn't recognise her, but she was very good.

SPEAKER_00 13:59

And I have to shout out the other actress playing the older sister, Mary, because her name is Skywalker. Hughes.

SPEAKER_10 14:04

Really? Perfect. As in like two words.

SPEAKER_00 14:08

As in Skywalker is her first name. And I think it's Hughes is her second name. Okay. But I was like, wow.

SPEAKER_10 14:13

All right. Well played. She's welcome on the pod any time.

SPEAKER_04 14:18

So um, so from your from your take on it, are you excited about this about this new trailer and what you've seen?

SPEAKER_00 14:26

I hadn't known it was going to happen, and I think it's going to be another one of those comfort shows, like, you know, with Bridgeton or something like that, that you'll just pop on in the background and you'll see them. It's it's only eight episodes this first season.

SPEAKER_04 14:37

It's a Netflix production. Correct.

SPEAKER_00 14:39

So I think it's going to very much slot into that sort of, you know, that area of of Netflix, of the comfort TV watching things. So I'm definitely going to watch at least the first couple of episodes to see what it's like. Having those.

SPEAKER_10 14:51

Having watched Luke Bracey on Art or Dodger, I'll watch it for him, if nothing else.

SPEAKER_00 14:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 14:55

Yeah, it's interesting, right? Because, you know, Netflix seems to be doing hit after hit after hit at the moment. They really are, they've really got their strides now. They know exactly what an audience wants, and they're really producing some really top-notch shows now, um, as well as film, um, that is going straight to streaming. Um, the only issue with Netflix is that they keep upping their price. So we're getting quality, um, but at what part do we continue to pay for the quality, right? Um, and uh that seems to be, you know, uh that balancing act that they kind of need to have there for eight episodes. You'd want to hope that it's a good uh uh if you're going to be paying well and truly past$20 a month, you know, for streaming.

SPEAKER_10 15:39

Are they the only ones that are raising their price though?

SPEAKER_04 15:41

Uh at this stage the highest, yes. They are the highest streamer price point um out of all the streamers now. Yeah um but you you can get still good quality shows on on Pepsi Max or on um Amazon Prime.

SPEAKER_10 15:56

Um it's I I mean I I don't know for sure, but it seems like Netflix is the one that has the the largest global reach though.

SPEAKER_04 16:04

Yes.

SPEAKER_10 16:05

Um and so perhaps I mean they can they can no doubt afford to do that a bit more than um the others at this stage, right?

SPEAKER_04 16:12

But um I I I'm with you, um producer Kim. I'm I I'm I I look you know it's not usually my thing, but it's something that I'll definitely give it a watch. Um just based on nostalgia alone. I think it will be will be good to watch just to say, oh yeah, I remember um I remember that and I remember that, and you know, I I I you know especially being younger and remembering those characters.

SPEAKER_02 16:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 16:36

Um because I think at the same time we had um what was that other same same era, and it was a family, and it was like good night, Jumboy, and um that was the Waltons, right? So that was around the same era. Okay, um so yeah, so I mean, if this does well, it wouldn't surprise me if we get a Waltons somewhere down the track. Um who knows?

SPEAKER_10 16:57

Yeah, reboots are plenty, so and everything's on the table for a reboot. Anyway, uh thanks for coming and talking to us about those, uh, producer Kim. One last thing before you leave. Oh we have to make an apology. Um a couple of episodes we talked about uh uh big cliffhanger endings. Oh yes. So we were talking about um Empire Strikes Back, and I was saying that Empire Strikes Back was the biggest one ever, and well, it is, and it was um, and we were talking about a bunch of other ones, and we when we left one out, you pointed out to me after you heard the episode that we left a a crucial one out. Can you tell us what it is?

SPEAKER_00 17:34

It was the original Planet of the Apes. Yeah, oh which when I heard your list, I'm like, they have not it's definitely a young audience, but for goodness sake, like I'm not you know, when they came around and saw that thing and you said that thing, that was huge.

SPEAKER_10 17:49

When you reminded me, I was devastated because I I I just thought, how did we how do we forget that one?

SPEAKER_04 17:55

Does that make our Mount Rushmore then?

SPEAKER_10 17:57

Yes, it does.

SPEAKER_04 17:58

Oh so we got it, we'd have to take one off.

SPEAKER_10 18:01

Or we'll just add one.

SPEAKER_04 18:02

Oh, we'll just add one? It's our Mount Rushmore. We can we can there's plenty of mountain. Yeah, but I mean we can have one. That's a big one. Yeah, you know I it the Simpsons have ruined that for me.

SPEAKER_05 18:13

Because whenever I hear Planet of the Apes, I'm thinking Dr. Sayus, the the musical.

SPEAKER_08 18:19

Doctor Sayus, Dr. Sayus, Doctor Sayus, Dr. Sayus, Doctor Taus, Dr. Taus.

SPEAKER_09 18:48

Of course, well, I couldn't be far.

SPEAKER_10 18:58

Yeah. It's um it's it's it's a heck of a reveal though, like um from a pop culture perspective, but um from a viewing perspective too. Like I only watched the first Planet of the Apes probably a year and a half, two years ago, yeah for the first time. Right. I'd never seen it before. And I decided um because I've been enjoying the Matt Reeves um reboots, yes, that I'd go back and watch some of the originals.

SPEAKER_04 19:23

Watch the Mark Wahlberg version.

SPEAKER_10 19:25

Uh and the Mark Wahlberg version. I actually really like the Marvel Walkburg version, but I won't for what it is, it's it's fine.

SPEAKER_05 19:30

I won't get I won't get sidetracked with that, but um, I really like that movie.

SPEAKER_10 19:33

Yeah, but um even knowing what is going to happen in that scene in the original Planet of the Apes movie, it it really hits. Like the the the the way that it it's revealed um uh to to the viewer is is a real um yeah kick in the teeth.

SPEAKER_04 19:51

Yeah, absolutely. And all I can say, producer Kim, is you finally made a monkey out of me. Nice. Well thank you. Yeah, absolutely. Well, everybody, thank Producer Kim.

SPEAKER_10 20:03

Thanks, Producer Kim.

SPEAKER_04 20:05

Yeah, all right, Cinemacon, my goodness, there's so much news. Um, and uh, where do we start? Have you got any news for us first? Oh Little House on the Prairie is a hard act to follow.

SPEAKER_10 20:18

But um, yeah, no, there was one more trailer that I wanted to talk about, and I'm sure you've watched it, but um uh The Burrows.

SPEAKER_04 20:25

The Burrows, yeah. Interesting, yeah, really interesting one.

SPEAKER_10 20:28

Yeah, well it's a bit baffling to be honest. Yeah. But um you you you've watched it.

SPEAKER_04 20:33

So this is done by this is the executive producers, uh the Duffer brothers.

SPEAKER_10 20:38

I had a look on IM20 things, and I think it's probably a bit much to say that they're the executive producers.

SPEAKER_04 20:44

I think they're part of it, they've just put their name to it to help sort of carry it along the way. There was like more than 16 of them.

SPEAKER_10 20:49

Yeah, yeah, there was eats. So, I mean they are some of the executive producers.

SPEAKER_04 20:53

But they're the headliner, right? So if you watch the trailer, they're the headliner.

SPEAKER_10 20:56

Well, they're the headliner because they they've put that on the poster, but I always am a bit skeptical about that until I've had a look to see how many others there are. Yeah. And this um list of executive producers on IMTB was one of the reasons why I'm sort of always a bit nervous about that. Because when there's when there's 16 of them, like that's the executive producers, they're they're the people paying for the thing.

SPEAKER_04 21:19

Yeah, well, that's right.

SPEAKER_10 21:20

So um creatively, you know, who knows how much they had to to to to do with the show. But yeah, um, all of that being said, um, the trailer looks really interesting. Um, it's got sort of JJ Abrams Spielberg sort of sort of vibes, um, but it but it's a TV series.

SPEAKER_04 21:36

Yeah, science fiction. Um it it appears to be science fiction.

SPEAKER_10 21:41

It looks like aliens, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 21:43

It's it's it's a hard one to sort of bed down as to what what it actually is. Yeah. Um but it looks like it's got a bit of comedy to it. Um and yeah, I'll look. I I mean I'll give it a I'll I'll give it a crack.

SPEAKER_10 21:56

Um it's another great cast.

SPEAKER_04 21:57

Yeah, yeah, another another interesting cast. Bunch of uh bunch of actors. Pissed them off. Who were that who were they? Do you remember who they were?

SPEAKER_10 22:05

Alfred Molina.

SPEAKER_04 22:07

Was it um Helen was Helen Mirren in it? No, no, that wasn't Helen Mirren.

SPEAKER_10 22:10

No, wasn't it? Um why have you done this to me? No, it's I know that it's got um yeah, Alfred Molina looks like he's sort of the star of the show. Um it also had uh Gina Malone.

SPEAKER_02 22:24

Yep.

SPEAKER_10 22:24

Um I saw Gina Malone in it as well. Um it's got Clark Peters, which is not a name that most people would know um automatically, but Clark Peters is an actor that's been in a bunch of HBO stuff that I've really loved, like The Wire, um and also uh Tremay, um one of my lesser-known favourite uh HBO shows. Uh Bill Pullman. Bill Pullman, yeah, yeah. I saw Bill Pullman in the trailer. Um Gina Davis. Gina Davis, that's that's who we were thinking of. Yeah, that's who we were thinking. Um yeah, no, it looks really interesting, but I'm I mean, I'm not it's not to say that I'm not convinced, but um I it's it's a puzzling sort of trailer, but I think that's the point. Yeah, like it's um yeah, it's it it as I said, it's it's got sort of Abram Spielberg, but even shamelin um like vibes.

SPEAKER_04 23:11

Yeah, it just says here that um a group of unlikely heroes must band together to stop an out otherworldly threat from stealing uh the one thing that they don't have time.

SPEAKER_10 23:22

Yeah, so it's it's very cryptic, but um I'll give it a go.

SPEAKER_04 23:27

Yeah, I I I I was very interested when I saw it.

SPEAKER_10 23:31

So like I think it's um I mean, obviously they're gonna if they've got any reason to say from the Stranger Things, they're gonna say that. But um I think that's a fairly bold um uh thing to say. Oh look, there's a Netflix production I'm curious to see whether they can back it up.

SPEAKER_04 23:47

Yeah, look, I I I agree with you. There's a Netflix production um at at the moment, which is uh and I put in inverted commas um uh executive produced by the Duffer brothers. Yeah. Um and the name escapes me right now, so we'll enter it here. The show is something very bad is going to happen. Uh but they but that's um yeah, falls really short. So um if you can't remember what it's called, it must fall real really short. Well, yeah, and I've I've watched two of the episodes, two of the eight episodes, and I'm out. I just it it just it's just a little bit too weird and kooky for me. Okay. Um so I I I think that they're sort of doing a bit of a a bad robot um production. You know, they've sort of uh they've had really good success from say Lost, yeah. Um and then Bad Right Robot have just sort of done all these other executive productions after the fact. Yeah, they've been given a bunch of blank checks and they're just using them and it hasn't and and it and it won't work in their favour because um news came this week that and the reason I mentioned Bad Robot is because Bad Robot are actually uh reducing their staff quite significantly. Okay. Um and they are moving out of uh the I think it's Warner Brothers lot where they had a where they had a uh an agreement for first first choice pictures. That only started a couple of years ago, I think. Yeah, so that's all sort of gone by the wayside now, and Bad Robot uh are definitely on the out. I mean, they've had a quite a number of failed um, you know, productions that they've either produced or exactly produced. Um they also didn't weren't able to get the uh next Star Trek film. Must have been Paramount, it was Paramount because they were doing the Star Trek uh film as well at the same time. Um and that didn't get off the ground, which was that third one. They just did the production of Duster, um, which we've talked about, which is on HBO Max. Yeah. Um and that that didn't um didn't rate and has been cancelled. Okay.

SPEAKER_10 25:55

Um so I mean it's interesting times at Warner Brothers and a paramount. Of course. I mean, it's gonna have interesting sort of knock-on effect. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 26:04

Um, but it's just interesting that you know, same, it they they're sort of if you wanted to compare them, they are very similar to each other, you know. Major hit, um, done some other productions, doing really well, then they just start sort of adding this sort of producer or executive producer to the name rather than actually them creatively themselves. Yeah, and yeah, it's it doesn't seem to be landing. So I'm really hoping that the boroughs um does well because it looks good, the trailer looks great.

SPEAKER_10 26:33

So yeah, it does it does look good. It's got a really um illustrious cast. Um and yeah, I'll I'll definitely give it a go. But um yeah, uh it's hard to tell exactly what it's about from that trailer.

SPEAKER_04 26:46

It's amazing how how how that there's been such a a switch uh from going from you know movie stars wouldn't wouldn't wouldn't go back into TV. Um you you started in TV to become a movie star, right? Yeah. Um but it that switch is just it it's it's just so um fluid now, you know. You can move between the two and it's and that and that makes it okay.

SPEAKER_10 27:10

But I think the good actors go where the good stories are. Yeah. And where and where the good work is. Like it's a job after all. Um, you know, that and and a lot of um uh actors I think uh are not just looking for a paycheck, but they're also looking for um a work environment. Um I think especially after you know COVID and all of that sort of stuff. Yeah, um, you know, you you hear a lot of actors talk about how they enjoy being based in say Hollywood, yeah. Um or even in Canada, like you know, you're just in one location. Um so yeah, I I I think they're just going where the stories are, and and there's lots of good stories out there.

SPEAKER_04 27:49

Yeah. Do you uh I mean I know that that you know you would have um you know stars like film stars that would play a cameo in a TV series, you know, because that would you know get the ratings. So like if you go back to like Columbo or something like that, you would have you know, or Murder She Wrote, you would have a film star, or even um uh The Love Boat. So we're going back quite quite some time on the Batman hanging out the window. Or Batman hanging out the window. So you'd have all these that would play a cameo, but you wouldn't actually have a star that would be the lead in in it. And then the the earliest one that I can think of, and correct me if I'm wrong, yeah, um, is 24 with Kiefer Sutherland. I think he's probably the first one that went what they referred to him at at the time was backward, yeah, going into a lead TV.

SPEAKER_10 28:40

It definitely raised eyebrows at the time. I remember um yeah, it was an it was an unusual and I think safe to say a brave move.

SPEAKER_04 28:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 28:49

Um, but it certainly paid off, didn't it?

SPEAKER_04 28:51

Yeah, absolutely. I mean it paved the way for um you know, for others that that that were TV stars that went into film and then came back as TV stars again. Um I mean, look at Lost, you know, with someone like Matthew Fox, you know, you had uh after Party of Five, his career sort of went up and he was doing film and you know, and then he decided to come back and do TV again. And I mean, look where that that landed for for Lost. So um, you know, that was a phenomenon. So um, yeah, I uh let us know, listeners. Um, is is there someone before Kiefer Sullivan that was uh a film star that went back to T or that went into TV for the first time? Um I can name plenty that have gone from TV into film, but I can't think of anybody before Kiefer Sullivan.

SPEAKER_10 29:37

This is probably not even a good example, but I was just thinking about William Shatner.

SPEAKER_04 29:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 29:42

Um like where where did TJ TJ Hooker fit in the middle of um Star Trek the TV series?

SPEAKER_04 29:48

So it was afterwards, so it came it came afterwards.

SPEAKER_10 29:51

But it was after the movies had started, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_04 29:53

It was after the movies had started, but so he'd started in TV though, yeah, because he was doing um he was doing like cameos. He was actually in a in a Colombo episode, he was in a Murder She Road episode. I'm pretty sure he ended up on the Love Boat at what at some stage. Yeah, um, so he was doing a lot of TV spots before he landed Star Trek.

SPEAKER_10 30:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 30:14

Um, but and then uh TJ Hooker came sort of later.

SPEAKER_10 30:18

He was going where the work went. Yeah, where the work where the work was.

SPEAKER_04 30:21

Yeah, where the work was. Um so uh yeah, you've got to swallow your pride in that industry, don't you? And just go go where you can. Well, you don't have to anymore because there's so many good stories.

SPEAKER_10 30:31

The stuff that's on TV's um in in many cases is um as uh illustrious as the stuff in movies, if not more so.

SPEAKER_04 30:40

Yeah, agree. What else you got?

SPEAKER_10 30:43

Um another thing that I saw today was uh they they announced the trailer for Jumanji 3. Have you seen that?

SPEAKER_04 30:50

Uh I haven't seen the trailer.

SPEAKER_10 30:51

I just heard that they don't know, I don't think it was a trailer, it was just a an announcement of what the title was gonna be.

SPEAKER_04 30:56

Yes, I had that on my list, so tell tell the listeners what's it gonna be called?

SPEAKER_10 30:59

It's called Open World.

SPEAKER_04 31:00

Yeah, and probably a great title for a um because it's based on a game.

SPEAKER_10 31:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 31:07

Um and it's based obviously on a um on an electric game, so rather than a uh a board game.

SPEAKER_02 31:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 31:15

Uh so uh yeah, open world kind of gives you the impression that this might be more digital based. Yeah, um, rather than cartridge-based, like the last two have been on, I think, if I remember rightly.

SPEAKER_02 31:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 31:29

So this could be a different, you know, sort of spin on how they're doing it. Um because the other two were sort of set in the was it nineties, uh, I think at the time, the era.

SPEAKER_10 31:39

I can't remember.

SPEAKER_04 31:40

I'm not too sure either. Correct, you know, help us help us out within this sort of stuff.

SPEAKER_10 31:44

I still I I still think they should have called it Jumanji 3, the rock breaks the internet. No, it don't really. I actually I quite like open world as well.

SPEAKER_04 31:53

Yeah, I think open world's great. I think it's a great opportunity to for them to sort of expand and and open up new um, you know, uh lands and ways to be able to uh Yeah, I don't know it's it's got a nice sort of positive uh forward-looking ring to it.

SPEAKER_10 32:07

I don't I just thought that was worth mentioning.

SPEAKER_04 32:09

Yeah, absolutely. And great cast too.

SPEAKER_10 32:12

Yeah, no, I mean always a fantastic cast of the Jamaji movies. Um yeah, no, I'll I'll I'll check it out at some point.

SPEAKER_04 32:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 32:19

Um I'm not sure whether I'll see it in the movies this time.

SPEAKER_04 32:22

I don't think I I don't think it's uh it's it's funny because uh one of the movies I saw this week, I was like, yeah, I'll probably I should have probably just played it for streaming for that one.

SPEAKER_10 32:31

Yeah, and I think Jamanji, you know, if it's if it's uh if I have a choice, I'm probably gonna watch it at home for streaming rather than just when when the second one came out, my boys were still a little bit younger, and so we all went because it was a good sort of family, yeah. But I don't I don't think they'd be too interested in going to see what same here. I might um wait for streaming.

SPEAKER_04 32:55

Yeah, same here. But we'll see.

SPEAKER_10 32:56

Yep. Um the only other thing, uh bit of news that I had uh that I thought was really exciting was um comic related news. Oh can I do a bit of comic related news?

SPEAKER_04 33:06

Can we can we get back to that? Because I've got I I I'd like I've got some comic related news too. I want to talk about. Yeah, no worries. Um but let's let's get that to that to that a little bit later.

SPEAKER_10 33:15

Will we do that in the aisle?

SPEAKER_04 33:16

Uh no, no, definitely do that in the in the in the zest. Okay, all right. No worries. Well what else have we got? We've got room. So it's better be good. So uh Cinemacon was is is uh on in our time at the moment. Yes, I now know this. Lots and lots of.

SPEAKER_10 33:30

Because we are we are there.

SPEAKER_05 33:31

We are there, yes, at Las Vegas. Next to the Crabs Table. Is that what it is? The Crabs Tables. Is it the Crabs Tables? That's the buffet. Isn't that one of the games that people play? Crabs? The Crabs Table. Oh, crabs. The Crabs Table. That's worse. I know.

unknown 33:46

Okay, I'm glad.

SPEAKER_05 33:48

The Crabs Table is is the buffet. All right, I'm glad. Or you can eat, or you can eat crab crab leg. Alright, sounds good. All right, yeah. Um Deal me in. Yeah. So long as it's fresh. Nah, just whatever.

SPEAKER_10 33:59

As long as it's as long as it's cheap.

SPEAKER_05 34:01

Oh, you're asking for job.

SPEAKER_04 34:03

Uh yeah, so um a lot of a lot of announcements of films that uh been gringed with or um uh are in production or or pre-production, post-production. Okay, hit me, hit me. Uh Paddington 4 is in development, which is which is fantastic.

SPEAKER_10 34:19

See that news? That's that's really good.

SPEAKER_04 34:20

Yeah, so so no date uh yet set uh and no uh no cast has been announced, yep. Other than uh Ben is it? Uh Ben Wish, yeah. Paddington Paddington himself, who's doing Paddington, yep. Um Paddington 3, um, which was in Paddington and Peru. It was is that what it was called? Yeah, Paddington, Peru. Yep, did it did exceptionally well. Yeah, um was a good it was a good time. Yeah, for its budget and for for what it what it actually got at the box office. Oh, good. Um, so I I I think that and Paddington 2 is is one of those sort of sequel films that everybody says is better than the first. So yeah, everybody raves about Paddington 2. Yeah, and and it's and it's got a really sort of high rated score from both critics and viewers. So um, you know, uh they're on a good thing with Paddington, why not keep it going?

SPEAKER_10 35:11

I've enjoyed them all.

SPEAKER_04 35:12

Yeah, which is which is fun.

SPEAKER_10 35:13

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 35:13

Um talking about sequels, uh Wonka, the sequel with Timothy Chalamot. We were talking about him before singing opera and we're getting Wonka 2. Yeah, we're getting Wonka 2, Electric Boogaloo. Um, and that will be scheduled to start production in August. Okay. Um I don't think that's a working title. It'd be great though, wouldn't it?

SPEAKER_10 35:32

No.

SPEAKER_04 35:33

He comes out and he does the moonwalk, does a bit of a like like joins hands with the with with those that are gonna go in and like the umpalumpers does the electric wave.

SPEAKER_05 35:42

Maybe one of the umpalumpers does like a caterpillar, backward caterpillar.

SPEAKER_10 35:47

Let's him go and flings him into the chocolate river backspin, bit of a backspin. I was out and now I'm in.

SPEAKER_05 35:53

Yeah, yeah. One of the one of the umpalumpers comes out with like a boom box on his shoulder.

SPEAKER_10 35:57

Okay, it's we're getting silly now. Have you seen the first one?

SPEAKER_05 36:01

No, no, no, that's why I think the number two's gonna be amazing. Uh, how is that reaction? Have you seen the first one? No, oh god, no, says Nate. No, it's not mailbag.

SPEAKER_04 36:14

But anyway, uh I believe it's uh from from my youngest. Uh they said it was great. So I'm gonna go with that.

SPEAKER_10 36:22

Oh, if she enjoyed it, that's good enough for me.

SPEAKER_04 36:26

So um good. Yep. Uh we also got uh new posters uh today in our time released for Spider-Man brand new date.

SPEAKER_10 36:36

Yeah, so at least one or two of those. The um the one with the hand ninjas attacking Spider-Man from below.

SPEAKER_04 36:44

That looked great. Interesting that they were all in their um ninja garb, yeah, except for the one at the front at the top of the pyramid, yeah, uh, had black hair. So that's um I I I obvious that pretty quick.

SPEAKER_10 36:59

I didn't notice that.

SPEAKER_04 37:00

Uh yeah, so that that one's got black hair, so I don't know who that is, um which is interesting. Um and yeah, I noticed in the in the Sony, I think it was Sony or Marvel, whoever posted the poster first, they there was a lot of sort of talk and who's this black-headed person. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_10 37:18

That that was where the buzz was.

SPEAKER_04 37:19

Yeah, that's where the buzz was. And then there was the other poster, which was a close-up, which is more of a traditional poster that we usually get with the Spider-Man, which is that close-up of the face. And it had like a reflection. Um I think it was MJ in the in the lens. Um I couldn't see anything in the uh in the other in the other eyeball.

SPEAKER_10 37:40

Yeah, I again I didn't have a really close look, but I th I think it was MJ as well.

SPEAKER_04 37:43

Yeah, so not you, the Zendaya MJ.

SPEAKER_10 37:47

Yeah, no, the the the the pretty one.

SPEAKER_04 37:49

That'd be great. That'd be a great poster. Just put you in.

SPEAKER_10 37:52

No. First of all, I'm not in the movie. And second of all, and second of all, uh I do not hold uh a torch. Now hang on, what's the expression expression? A candle. I'm not even in the same league as Zendaya.

SPEAKER_04 38:11

Okay, gotcha.

SPEAKER_10 38:13

Um no worries. Yeah. I'm just having a look at the the poster now with the the ninjas.

SPEAKER_04 38:21

Yeah, you can see that person in in the in the top with black hair.

SPEAKER_10 38:24

Yeah, big deal.

SPEAKER_04 38:25

So who is that person?

SPEAKER_10 38:27

I would say, oh, this person's not wearing a hat.

SPEAKER_04 38:29

Well, you know, uh that's obviously uh usually in film when they don't when they're not wearing their helmet or their their garb or whatever they're wearing, yeah, um, that usually implies that it's it's a fairly big headliner.

SPEAKER_10 38:45

Maybe it's karai from the turtles.

SPEAKER_04 38:47

Oh, that what a great what a great crossover that would be. That would be that'd be amazing.

SPEAKER_10 38:51

That would be huge.

SPEAKER_04 38:52

Uh uh why why haven't they done that? That that'd be a great one. I don't know. Iron Fist.

unknown 38:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 38:58

Iron Fist Daredevil. The foot versus the hand. The foot versus the hand.

SPEAKER_10 39:02

Or they they merge. What does that make them elbow?

SPEAKER_04 39:06

Foot and mouth.

SPEAKER_10 39:09

Alright, okay. Trains off the rails. What do you got next?

SPEAKER_04 39:14

Uh talking about Spider-Man, we've got Spider-Man uh beyond the Spider-Verse. We got some images. Some images, yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh, and I believe that uh there was at Cinemacon there was a screening of maybe the first five minutes of uh of of the film. Uh look, I I don't know whether that's gonna get leaked or not, but um the buzz was pretty pretty high for it.

SPEAKER_10 39:39

I can imagine.

SPEAKER_04 39:40

Uh we in in that short, we it's essentially picking up where the uh was it into the Spider-Verse? I think that was the second one. Yes. Uh that was uh where it was left off, and there is a spoiler here uh where Miles is confronted with um a villain, uh, and that villain uh they are then having a bit of a banter about about it because they know each other quite well. Um I'm trying not to spoil anything for anybody who might not have seen it.

SPEAKER_10 40:12

Well you're trying to say, not you're trying to say not to say who the villain is.

SPEAKER_04 40:15

Yeah, I'm trying not to say who the villain is. Well, tell us who's the villain. So the villain is the prowler. So if you remember in the second film, and we're gonna say spoilers here. Spoiler alert.

SPEAKER_10 40:31

The second one, just to be clear, because I knew you were wrong, uh, Across the Spider-Verse. Oh, across the Spider-Man.

SPEAKER_04 40:36

First one is into the Spider-Verse. This is Across the Spider-Verse, which is the second one, might stay.

SPEAKER_10 40:41

Dang these Spider-Man movies with their similar titles. Yeah, into and across and beyond. I'll never be over it.

SPEAKER_04 40:49

But uh yeah, in the second one, we have the cliffhanger where Miles Morales comes face to face with uh the prowler from another universe, which happens to be Miles Morales. Yes. So uh this is picking up straight after that. Okay. And what that means is uh they've had a conversation about obviously, you know, their lives. Yeah. Um what's what's great is that we found out that Kingpin, uh Spider-Man Noir, Spider-Man, Spider Ham, uh, Spider-Man 2099, and uh Spider-Punk will all return for this new film.

SPEAKER_10 41:29

Spider Gwen? Did you say Spider Gwen?

SPEAKER_04 41:31

No, not nothing's nothing was mentioned about Spider Gwen. Um so yeah, at this stage, nothing yet. But that doesn't mean that she's not gonna be in it. Um she plays a a a vital role in in the story. Yeah, she'll be there. Um I I think then maybe they're just holding off her and for you know to use that for for later.

SPEAKER_10 41:50

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 41:50

Um but that was just sort of a they highlighted some of the spider men, if you want to call it that. Yeah. Um and spider people and not spider women. So yeah, anyway, um moving right along. Uh My Adventures with Superman season three. Yes. Um so for those of you who are not watching this, you need to get on this. This is um from uh HBO Max, aka Pepsi Max. It's a great show, and it's a great show, yeah. Um, so much so that it's done so well that we're getting a season three. Awesome. Uh, and that season three will air later this year. Excellent. Um, no date as of yet. So Jack Quaid uh plays Superman and Clark. Yep. Uh and this is a retelling, if you want to call it, of Superman. Yeah. Um more of a younger, young adult version of it.

SPEAKER_10 42:42

It's like a it's like a modern anime, um sort of not as um adult version of like invincible type version.

SPEAKER_04 42:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 42:52

It's it it does remind me of a bit of invincible um in terms of the aesthetics of it. Yeah, um just not as violent. No, just not as violent, which is kind of what you want from a Superman show, but yeah, it's got a real um anime uh sort of uh vibe to it. Yeah. Um and in the dialogue and in the comedy, and uh, as you say, Jack Quaid plays Superman and Clark and is great. Uh I think it's a really uh great, charming version of of um Superman. It puts some interesting twists on um Lois and Jimmy and the other supporting characters, um, and uh even some of the other villains and allies, uh it it it's um a very fresh take on a lot of those.

SPEAKER_04 43:34

And Supergirl now, though we've got Supergirl into the series as well.

SPEAKER_10 43:38

So and that and that was a really interesting storyline from season two. So um yeah, I'm really looking forward to that as a Superman fan and just a superhero fan in general.

SPEAKER_04 43:47

And you know we're getting a spin off series from that as well? No. So we're getting my adventures with Green Lantern, which I'm really excited about.

SPEAKER_10 43:54

Yeah, I did know we were getting that one, um, but I'm not sure when that one's changed.

SPEAKER_04 43:59

No, nothing yet. No images, there's no there's no real like who who's playing white. Um it's just been announced with a with a um a headline image of uh which is very similar to my adventures with Superman. Okay. Um but that's that's all we're getting at the moment. So I would guess that when season three comes out, we'll probably get a better look at my adventures with Green Lantern.

SPEAKER_10 44:22

Very excited about that because of the um potential for unlimited scale, yeah, the Green Lantern invites.

SPEAKER_04 44:28

Okay.

SPEAKER_10 44:29

Um yeah, that's that's really good news.

SPEAKER_04 44:30

Yeah. Um uh Avengers Doomsday. So we mentioned last episode that Avengers Doomsday was moving dates. Yes, you did. Um that is still keeping it's still pretty hot on the on the news front, um, but still no announcement yet from Marvel. Okay. I think Marvel are just holding out. There's a trailer that's sort of predicted to come in the coming weeks. Um so we I would say that that's when the big announcement will be made. Uh but to say that there has been some test screens, some initial test screens. Okay. Um they are going back to do some uh post uh filming, yeah. Uh just to just to tidy up some of some obviously um maybe some inconsistencies or you know uh a little bit of a change in the storyline or whatever. Yeah, just some tightening up. Yeah. Um, but apparently that the test screening has has um been highly successful, yeah. Um very favorable, and they're comparing it um to be uh better than infinity war.

SPEAKER_10 45:36

Better than infinity.

SPEAKER_04 45:37

And and the quote the quote has that has come out of this um uh on several areas um has been that this is probably the best so far from the Russo brothers.

SPEAKER_10 45:48

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 45:49

So that's a bold claim. That's a massive call, right? Because Infinity War was amazing, um, you know, Winter Soldier was amazing. Um, you know, they've they've they've done amazing stuff.

SPEAKER_10 46:00

I don't know why they don't I honestly don't know why they would bother saying that.

SPEAKER_04 46:03

Well, I don't know. Uh this is a test screening, right? And so this could be coming straight out of Marvel, yeah, who are sort of you know pumping up the tyres um and allowing for this to be said. Yeah. Um but look, if if if if it's all true, I'm I'm there. I'm I'm so excited.

SPEAKER_10 46:20

I just don't I yeah, if I I can't imagine it would be Marvel or Disney that would be saying this because I don't know why they would bot why they would bother.

SPEAKER_04 46:27

Um you don't need to, it's gonna be one of the biggest films of all time.

SPEAKER_10 46:31

Exactly, yeah, yeah. No, I'm I'm not putting I'm not gonna put that expectation on it myself.

SPEAKER_04 46:35

No, no. I mean there is uh Kevin Fige uh was saying that uh that Secret Wars, which will be uh I think that's after Doomsday, isn't it? Isn't that the next one?

SPEAKER_10 46:47

I believe that's the next Avengers film after Doomsday, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 46:50

And that's an MCU reset. That that'll be a big reset. So we'll see a lot of the older characters go, we'll have a reintroduction of new characters or replacement um actors taking over the mantle. Uh we know that for sure. Uh Kevin Feige was on the on on the record as saying that that that uh Secret Wars would be a reset.

SPEAKER_10 47:10

So repla like replacement actors, what does that mean? Like does that mean you know, if we get say Hugh Jackman's Wolverine in Secret Wars, yeah, then we'll get him replaced by some other actor in that movie.

SPEAKER_04 47:21

Could be, yeah, possibly. Uh it could be a change of storyline, right? So um, you know, the multiverse is is is never ending, and so we could be drawing from other universes. Okay, there's also talk of the young Avengers, um, which which seems to be it's it's only rumour, but that seems to be bubbling around at the moment. I wish they had a wire.

SPEAKER_10 47:44

I honestly wish they would hurry up with that. Yeah, because if at current rate, if they wait too much longer, they'll be the old Avengers. They're gonna be the old Avengers, yeah. Yeah, I mean Haley Steinfeld's in there, like I mean, they're all still young, but um, I wish they would get their act together when it comes to the young Avengers because they've already set it up. Well, there's so many characters, like between you know, Peanut from Ant-Man, yeah, um, you know, uh Scott Lang's daughter, and um uh and then uh Ms.

SPEAKER_04 48:14

Marvel, you've got Wiccan Wiccan and Speed. Wicken and Speed, yeah, or Honkling as well.

SPEAKER_10 48:20

Uh like there's there's there's so many characters that could be filling those roles. I think they're waiting for Miles Morales.

SPEAKER_04 48:26

That's what I think too. Yeah, and I think that that'll come in secret wars.

SPEAKER_10 48:29

But I just I really hope they don't wait too much longer because um I I want that story. Yeah, and I think I think it's time. Like I think in terms of you know uh freshening up the MCU and giving it a a good natural organic boost that makes sense in the story, it it's it's time for the young Avengers.

SPEAKER_04 48:46

Yep, agree. Yeah, 100%. Uh talking about uh reboots, uh, we are getting a Robocop TV series, okay. Which has been re uh which has been greenwit um at Amazon Prime.

SPEAKER_10 48:59

Yep, nice.

SPEAKER_04 49:00

That's interesting. 1980s uh film series. Um probably the first is probably the best.

SPEAKER_10 49:06

I'm a Robocop fan.

SPEAKER_04 49:07

I'm a Robocop fan too.

SPEAKER_10 49:09

I actually really enjoyed the um the the reboot movie with Joel Kinneman.

SPEAKER_04 49:13

Yeah, yeah, look, it was a it was a more modern spin on it. Yeah. Um and I I really dug that. There's no no uh sort of talk as to what direction they're gonna take it, whether it's more of that modern um reboot, yeah, or whether it's back to the original. Um it will uh follow the storyline of you know a cop that has been um you know injured in line of duty, yeah, or essentially almost killed in the line of duty, yeah, and then um is made to go back to work um the next day as a robot. It's a Frankenstein story, yeah. Um that's probably why you like it so much too. Yeah, maybe. Because you're a big Frankenstein fan, too.

SPEAKER_10 49:52

Yeah, well, I I I think I do empathize with the character of Robocop in the same way that I do with Frankenstein.

SPEAKER_04 49:59

Because they made him go back to work after after being sick.

SPEAKER_10 50:01

Well, he should be but I mean Frankenstein, the the the the the composite parts that make up Frankenstein and the guy that makes the guy that is Robocop, yeah, they should be dead. Yeah, like they should be at rest. Yeah, you know, they've they've they've suffered a horrific um incident or in injury that in the case of Frankenstein has killed him. And then like I said, like you said, you know, in Robocop, I think it's pretty much the same. He's he's dead. Yeah, they bring him back from the dead and they basically use his what's left to um animate this robot body. Yeah. Um and the tragedy of that and the pain of that um does does appeal to me.

SPEAKER_04 50:38

Is the is the memories and the trauma of not being able to have what you had before.

SPEAKER_10 50:42

Yeah, I think it's I think it's it's really, really it's a it's a really sad but really compelling story of you know bringing someone back when should they, no, they probably shouldn't. And yeah, and then yeah, that that person having to endure effectively as a a different person, but with the memories of what they were before. Um, yeah, I think it's really compelling stuff.

SPEAKER_04 51:02

Yeah, absolutely. Talking about bringing something back that you probably shouldn't, um, is that studio Oh, I thought we were gonna do the weird files. No, not yet. We're getting there so you don't get off that easy. Something really good uh could be that Ron Burgundy and the Channel 6 news team are coming back.

SPEAKER_10 51:23

Oh Lord.

SPEAKER_04 51:23

For an Anchorman 3, okay, um, which has already set a date for October 2027, at least. Yeah. Um that'll be interesting. Um I would say that they'll probably have to do an older version of Ron Burgundy in the team. Um because of course they will. They'd have to.

SPEAKER_10 51:43

How long has it been since the second film?

SPEAKER_04 51:45

I don't know.

SPEAKER_10 51:46

It must be at least 10 years.

SPEAKER_04 51:47

At least 10 years. Yeah. Um, but yeah, look, it's um if if they've got a good story and um they're willing to put the band back together, um, I'm all for it.

SPEAKER_10 51:57

Anyone who doesn't want to see that doesn't know what fun is no, I'm down for that.

SPEAKER_04 52:03

Yeah, it's uh yeah, looking forward to that one. Uh just getting on to some toy news before we get into some comic news, okay. All right. Uh I'll allow it. Boba Fett, prototype.

SPEAKER_10 52:14

Yep, I've heard of him.

SPEAKER_04 52:15

Okay, so there's two different prototypes. There's a J slot and there's a L slot, which is the rocket launcher.

SPEAKER_10 52:24

So we're this is we're talking about the original figures.

SPEAKER_04 52:27

The original figures from 19 uh seventy-nine, I think it is.

SPEAKER_10 52:31

Yeah, widely sought after. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 52:33

Uh 100 made of the, I think it's 100 made of the J slot and uh 50 made of the L slot. Um so they were very, very minor. And the reason for that was because um you'll shoot shoot your eye out with the with the rocket.

SPEAKER_10 52:48

Which one's the deadly one? Both of them pretty much were.

SPEAKER_04 52:51

Okay. Um and then that what they did is they then So J for jugular, L for L for larynx. Yeah, pretty much. Okay, all right, cool. Um, or the lumbar. Um in the back. Cool. Uh but uh yeah, so a uh prototype Bubba Fett J slot rocket firing action figure from 1979 just set a record at a UK auction for$1.34 million. Oh my god. I know, amazing. Yeah, amazing that somebody has the money to pay on a you know 3.75 inch figure.

SPEAKER_10 53:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 53:27

Um you wouldn't be taking it out and playing with it, would you?

SPEAKER_10 53:30

I wouldn't be telling anybody. Well, my wife's very understanding. If I if I paid that much for an action figure, I'd be a dead man.

SPEAKER_04 53:37

Well, 1.34 million uh is is is a lot to pay for an action figure. Um and you'd I mean it's all it's all um it's all encased. Especially when it can kill you. How do you how do you know if the rocket launch is firing or not? You just gotta take their word for it, right? So um so apparently apparently the J apparently the J slot was um not as intricate mechanically as the L slot was um but the J slot is there's there's less of them, and so that's what made it more popular. Right. Um but you know if if that one's selling those other prototypes, you watch those shoot through the roof now. Ridiculous depending on their grading. But uh yeah, apparently this is a high graded uh action figure. Oh well good luck to them with a with a with a working rocket firing mechanism.

SPEAKER_10 54:27

All I think about is how many comics I could buy for that money.

SPEAKER_04 54:30

Yeah, all I can think about is how many eyes I could take out with it. So you know. Wow, okay. All right, comic news. Yes. Uh uh one one thing that we were talking about off air and uh is uh that Tom Taylor has announced. Big announcement. Do you want to say what it was?

SPEAKER_10 54:48

Well, this was my news. Go for it. This is this was what I was gonna talk about. Yeah, go. Go, it's all yours.

SPEAKER_04 54:53

Try and steal my I just said big announcement, it's all yours.

SPEAKER_10 54:56

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_04 54:59

I was pumping you up.

SPEAKER_10 55:02

Uh Tom Taylor, um, uh local Melbourne uh Australian DC uh writer, uh writer of detective comics, and um previously a writer of Nightwing Suicide Squad, Superman, yeah, a whole bunch of other stuff. Um he's announced a sequel to his uh Dark Knights of Steel series um for later this year.

SPEAKER_04 55:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 55:22

Like it's out in the next few months.

SPEAKER_04 55:24

Yeah, it's amazing. Yeah, yeah, just been working on that quietly in the background.

SPEAKER_10 55:28

Did you read the first um series?

SPEAKER_04 55:29

I did read the first series, it's been a while, so I'd have to go back and reread it again. Yeah. Um, but yeah, it was great. So much, so much fun.

SPEAKER_10 55:37

It was really, really good. It it borrows a lot from the um uh sort of twists and turns and drama of Game of Thrones. Yes. Um, uh unashamedly, and uh hence it's got you know quite a body count, and um you never quite know what's gonna happen in that in that series. A bit like um uh previous Tom Taylor sort of uh DC Elseworlds series like Deceased uh Deceased and Um Injustice.

SPEAKER_04 56:05

Oh right. I I know what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_10 56:07

Yeah, the Injustice comics. Yep. Um yeah, so I'm I'm really excited uh about that. It's a 12-issue series, same as the first one. Um so yeah, for a whole year we're gonna get new chapters of uh Dark Knights of Steel, which is the yeah, sort of medieval um Else Worlds uh you know reboot of the DC universe.

SPEAKER_04 56:28

Is the first series in a compact comic?

SPEAKER_10 56:30

It's not in a compact comic, no. Um it's available as a trade. As a trade, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 56:35

Okay.

SPEAKER_10 56:36

Um and it's excellent for anyone that likes the um Else World stuff or even just the sword and sorcery genre. Yep. Um it's a it's a aside from being a DC Universe reboot property, um, it's actually just a really good um uh swords and sorcery stories.

SPEAKER_04 56:55

Yeah, it's it's it's really really good story. Well you wouldn't expect anything less from Tom Taylor, so no, totally. Do we know who is doing the artwork for him?

SPEAKER_10 57:02

Um I did say, I mean, I I know the first one was by Yasmin Putri, um, and some of the artwork work that Tom was sharing today was um of uh from Yasmin. But um I I did see some talk that it might be Otto Schmidt, okay, who has um uh done the DC versus Vampires series. Yes. Um and yeah, I'm down for that as well. I really enjoy his art his art.

SPEAKER_04 57:27

So yeah, but it's a different it's a different story, right? So you don't necessarily need to have the same uh artist on board.

SPEAKER_10 57:33

No, um but but yeah, we'll we'll we'll see we'll we' w whichever of those people it is, um or whoever else, I'm sure it'll be great. Yeah, it'll be awesome.

SPEAKER_04 57:41

Yeah. Uh in um uh in our time, we saw the first look at absolute Batman 23 cover. Have you seen this? Uh is this the Robins? The Robins. Yes. And you've seen what they look like and what's coming, and I had to have a bit of a giggle. Yeah. You didn't see that coming, did you? No. As as as we usually don't in the absolute universe.

SPEAKER_10 58:07

No, I mean what what's going on there? Like they're giant robot monster kaijus or something.

SPEAKER_04 58:11

Well, I I thought they were like Power Rangers, so they're just like riding around on bikes and then they've then they jump into like a a mech. They look like Pacific Rim. Yeah, they're they're like mech warriors, yeah. Um uh with Robin who's managing them by the looks of it.

SPEAKER_10 58:27

So it looked like a whole lot of different because there were some on motorcycles and and some in power suits.

SPEAKER_04 58:33

And did did you did you notice that and and they've and some of them are like um uh I believe um uh Nightwing's got the sticks, so that that you know, um Dick Grayson's got got sticks, and they've all got different weapons. Okay, that sort of one's got the bow staff and um uh This is sounding familiar. And and and um Jason Todd's got like a big humongous crowbar.

SPEAKER_10 58:57

Oh wow. So uh I'm totally here for it, but yeah, it wasn't what I was expecting.

SPEAKER_04 59:04

But uh it was a bit of a flip, right?

SPEAKER_10 59:06

Yeah, yeah. It looked like a mismatch on that that cover art. It looks like looked like that big Robin was gonna squish Batman.

SPEAKER_04 59:12

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but I think that's that's all for uh That'd be a twist, wouldn't it? All for show, right? All for show, yeah. So yeah, I'm I'm down for it as as always with the with the with the absolute universe. Um, you know, it definitely wasn't what we were expecting.

SPEAKER_10 59:28

No, well that that that seems to be what works though, isn't it? Like you know, it's it's constantly surprising us, but it's constantly um uh pleasing us as well.

SPEAKER_04 59:37

So oh definitely, definitely pleasing, that's for sure. Yeah. Um all right, let's get into uh the weird files.

SPEAKER_10 59:53

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_04 59:56

What's what's the what's the lack of enthusiasm here? Well, I don't understand.

SPEAKER_10 1:00:00

Partly because I'm worried about there was a possum one or something.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:03

Oh well if if you want to if you want to talk about that one.

SPEAKER_10 1:00:06

No no no no no no no.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:07

Well well do we go with Dealer's Choice again? Do you want Tupperware Ghost? Or the other or do you want frozen squirrel?

SPEAKER_10 1:00:14

No, no, not the squirrel one.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:16

Well, frozen squirrel will be next week. I mean you you you can either rip the band-aid off now um or you can do it next week. Right, it's up to ship.

SPEAKER_10 1:00:23

Oh no, you're right. You'd you'd you'd I'll be a brave boy. Um that let's do the frozen squirrel.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:28

Frozen squirrel? Okay, alright. Okay, here we go. Let's open the weird files. Alright. So, uh we have uh authorities in Daytona Beach, Florida have arrested a 67-year-old man. Florida, what could go wrong? After he allegedly struck another patron with a frozen squirrel. Okay. During a dispute over a booth at a Waffle House on International Speedway Boulevard. According to the police report, the altercation began when the man was asked to move from a four-person booth to a smaller table. He refused, stating that uh he had been uh sitting in that booth since 1987.

SPEAKER_10 1:01:15

Wow.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:16

Uh and wasn't about to change now. When another diner sat down at the uh contested booth. The man allegedly walked out to his truck, retrieved a frozen squirrel from a cooler, okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:31

Returning to the restaurant holding it like a hammer, and struck the other man on the shoulder. Right. He then reportedly told the waitress that he started it and that the squirrel finished it. Officers noted that the man was wearing a shirt that read amateur taxidermist. Okay.

SPEAKER_10 1:01:51

I wonder how long he'd been waiting for this moment.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:53

And had two additional frozen squirrels in his vehicle, which is the descrip it which is described as backup.

SPEAKER_10 1:02:03

Florida man.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:05

Uh other patrons have uh have been treated for minor bruising, uh, and what was described as an emotional as emotionally confusing. Officers say that responded to Waffle House uh uh altercations involving plates, uh syrup bottles, and menus, but this is believed to be the first incident involving a frozen rodent. Look, you'd imagine so. Yeah, the the man has been charged with battery with an unusual weapon. There you go. We ripped the band-aid off. That's it for the weird files. Somehow that wasn't as bad as I was expecting. Oh, see, it's still great though. It's still weird and wonderful, and we know our listeners are loving the weird files, so we'll keep bringing it to you until somebody says please stop.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:56

Other than you. Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:03:00

I can't win the prize because I work here.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:02

Definitely not. Uh, I've got uh I've also got news in the tomb. So we're back with another. Uh for those of you who may be uh listening for the first time, the tomb is uh our weekly uh update on the mummy and what's happening with the mummy. We both had the mummy film. Um and guided coming out with the mummy four um or the mummy three three point one four.

SPEAKER_10 1:03:36

Jet Lee will not be cancelled.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:38

Yeah, well, uh the he's not canon anyway, but anyway, we we we digress. Uh the we we talked about actually in uh last uh in our last episode um about what the rating would be for the mummy four. Yes. Uh and uh it's been made official. So we have the US rating, which will be a PG 13. They haven't even filmed it yet. Well, this is the interesting thing, because we've got Cinemacon, there's some announcements about film, etc. etc. Right. Um, and uh they and the directors have come out and said that um that the the official rating will be a PG 13, okay, which will be an M for Australia. Yeah, um, and the directors have promised to push the violence meter to the limit of the rating.

SPEAKER_10 1:04:23

Right.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:23

So that's uh that's an interesting thing.

SPEAKER_10 1:04:25

And so this is why they would have been talking about it at CinemaCon, because Cinemacon at its heart is about is for um distributors.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:31

That's right. Yeah, that's exactly right. So um this is this is a great way for distributors to go, okay, we're on board because we're gonna have a a hard PG 13, if you want to call it that. Hard PG 13. Or uh or a hard M that's bad that's balancing on uh M15 Plus.

SPEAKER_10 1:04:47

Hard PG 13. Bluey's going off.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:52

So uh so yeah, that's it for the tune.

SPEAKER_10 1:04:55

All right, that's another update. Another update. We did it. We we did it.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:00

Yeah, yeah. We're going for the Guinness Record for Australia's biggest, for Australia's only mummy podcast.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:08

Better in the world of DC Comic Superheroes.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:11

My super strength will stop your power punch last week, uh can't stop Mr. Freeze and Freeze. Run something stars.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:23

Not even penguin can defeat the powers of the superheroes. Action figures eat sold out played bomb toy bids. And now bring all the action of Batman home with the Batmobile, action figures, and more.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:07

Seems like we've had some technical difficulties with the audio changing our voices to sound more like Alvin Simon or Theodore from the Chip Monks. So unfortunately the last 30 minutes of the show we won't be able to uh. However, we'll be back next week with all our regular segments. Thanks for listening and stay fresh.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:28

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SPEAKER_06 1:06:39

There's a sad sort of banging from the clock in the hall. And the bells in the stable too. And up in the nursery, an absurd little bird is popping out to say cuckoo. Regretfully they tell us, but firmly they compel us to say goodnight to you So long, farewell, I'll be the same.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:22

I hate to go, and we just finish that well, I'll be to say that you're well, I'll be to say, I've got to stay, so both, fairwell, I'll be to say goodbye, I beat, I did, I'll try to say goodbye. I love it, I think it'd be a lie.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:40

The sun has gone to bed, and so most I so long farewell all theaters say goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye.